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	<title>Comments on: Frameworks that start sessions for every visitor make me sad</title>
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	<description>because at 3am anything sounds good</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fred Wenzel</title>
		<link>http://micropipes.com/blog/2008/03/06/frameworks-that-start-sessions-for-every-visitor-make-me-sad/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Wenzel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember myself filing a bug with Cake a long time ago that complained about the inability to start a session manually when you disable automatic session starting. Many months later, it was closed fixed without any further comment (so I am still unsure how this was indeed fixed).

In any case it's sad to open a session for everyone, as it adds a bunch of unnecessary overhead (I am inclined to say that most pages that are divided into public/private, or are even completely public don't need a session for anonymous users).

Thus, dear framework developers: Please default to manual (well, "assisted") session handling instead of forcing AUTO_SESSION on and then not providing a way to really, really disable this "feature".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember myself filing a bug with Cake a long time ago that complained about the inability to start a session manually when you disable automatic session starting. Many months later, it was closed fixed without any further comment (so I am still unsure how this was indeed fixed).</p>
<p>In any case it&#8217;s sad to open a session for everyone, as it adds a bunch of unnecessary overhead (I am inclined to say that most pages that are divided into public/private, or are even completely public don&#8217;t need a session for anonymous users).</p>
<p>Thus, dear framework developers: Please default to manual (well, &#8220;assisted&#8221;) session handling instead of forcing AUTO_SESSION on and then not providing a way to really, really disable this &#8220;feature&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://micropipes.com/blog/2008/03/06/frameworks-that-start-sessions-for-every-visitor-make-me-sad/#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 05:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you file a bug in cakephp trac system?

Yeah, I love using cakephp because it helps speed up development, but sometimes bugs with SESSION like this one really become a pita :( .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you file a bug in cakephp trac system?</p>
<p>Yeah, I love using cakephp because it helps speed up development, but sometimes bugs with SESSION like this one really become a pita <img src='http://micropipes.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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